[13:58] Rem Nightfire: ola [13:58] Bushido Contepomi: hihi Timo:) [13:58] Bushido's Free Translator: Timo hihi:) [13:59] PaintHorse Graysmark: Hello all [13:59] Rem Nightfire: hi paint [13:59] Melodie Darwin: hi Painthorse [13:59] Bushido Contepomi: Hi PaintHorse, any news on those plot's last week? [13:59] Bushido's Free Translator: Hi PaintHorse alle nieuws over de plot van de afgelopen week? [14:00] Rem Nightfire: heeeellooooo hekate [14:00] Rem Nightfire: howdy helpless [14:00] Helpless Frog: Greetings. [14:01] Helpless Frog: Still clearing the blindness. :) [14:01] Talarus Luan: ..and Drongle is the first to take a dip. :) [14:02] NanaShea Inglewood: wow...lag [14:02] Helpless Frog: I know it'll happen to me as soon as the unseat even triggers. :) [14:02] PaintHorse Graysmark: yes thanks to ac ouple other members I now have a 2655 with 967 prims already started my build ty all [14:02] Drongle McMahon: Splutter [14:03] Rem Nightfire: hi tempus [14:03] CHAIR2: shift-left/right to change animation [14:06] Rem Nightfire: hi cuddlebug [14:06] PaintHorse Graysmark: hello cuddle [14:06] Cuddlebug Clowes: well that was fun ? [14:06] Cuddlebug Clowes: hi everyone ? [14:06] Drongle McMahon: There goes cuddles [14:06] Tempus Titanium: hello [14:06] Timo Daehlie: hiya tempus ;) [14:07] Bushido Contepomi: always a brides made never a bride, bye cuddles [14:07] Bushido's Free Translator: altijd een bruiden gemaakt nooit een bruid, bye knuffels [14:07] Cuddlebug Clowes: what an entrance ? [14:07] Bushido Contepomi: hehe [14:07] Bushido's Free Translator: hehe [14:09] Talarus Luan: Greetings, everyone. :) Welcome to the Arbor Project meeting. For those of you who are new, a special welcome to you. :) [14:09] Talarus Luan: I apologize for not being available last meeting; our quarterly Dragon Egg release event was a couple weeks ago. [14:10] Helpless Frog: Dragons first. :) [14:10] Bushido Contepomi: Hangover? [14:10] Bushido's Free Translator: Kater? [14:10] Cuddlebug Clowes: lol [14:10] rm Sirbu: ola to all [14:10] Talarus Luan: Lots of good news and information to share this time around, so hold onto your seat cushions. :D [14:10] Timo Daehlie: ola rm [14:11] Talarus Luan: First off, would like to talk about news from around the mainland, and also news from Jack Lindens' Office Hours. [14:12] Helpless Frog: Missed that last week. You have us addicted dragon. :) [14:12] Talarus Luan: Jack has been spending more of his time talking about the bot situation of late, but he has said that they are now acting on their policies, which is what we've been waiting on. [14:13] Marigold Devin: bots keep springing up still with brand new dates on [14:13] Talarus Luan: Quite a few people have been seeing progress towards getting extortion microparcels (as well as other microparcels from unresponsive owners) swapped around to get them out of the middle of their plots [14:13] Bushido Contepomi: I happen to own land beside a bot farm [14:13] Bushido's Free Translator: Ik ben op eigen terrein naast een bot boerderij [14:13] Marigold Devin: ditto [14:13] Talarus Luan: In addition, Jack claims that a large number of microparcels have been dumped and/or sold in recent weeks. [14:14] Rem Nightfire: i havent seen it [14:14] Helpless Frog: Probably swapping away from alts. [14:14] Talarus Luan: We've also been watching the Incident Reports, and there have been a few related instances, including a 7-day suspension for landcutting. [14:14] Drongle McMahon: He including Cytherea and Elanthius? [14:15] Rem Nightfire: yes that was great [14:15] Helpless Frog: Who was it? [14:15] Talarus Luan: I think he only quotes overall statistics, not from any one source. [14:15] Timo Daehlie: Single21blanc Allen [14:15] Timo Daehlie: or something like that [14:15] Drongle McMahon: I think that was the person we saw cutting 100 plots in a day. [14:15] Rem Nightfire: yes it was [14:15] Drongle McMahon: Singeblanc = white monkey! [14:15] Helpless Frog: Bad juju [14:16] Bushido Contepomi: huh? [14:16] Talarus Luan: Some of you also may be aware of a rather infamous microparcel swap in the last week or so. [14:16] Marigold Devin: not rm?? [14:16] Talarus Luan: One of the "good" microparcel owners had one of their plots swapped by Guy Linden directly. [14:17] Aquarius Paravane: swapped in the sim or between sims? [14:17] Talarus Luan: Caused a little bit of a stink in the forums, but it shows that LL *is* starting to handle these issues. [14:17] Talarus Luan: In the same sim [14:17] Aquarius Paravane: got a link for the stinking forum? [14:17] Marigold Devin: Yes. would love that link please Aquarius [14:17] Bushido Contepomi: lol [14:17] Marigold Devin: And any links to the new policies if you have them handy anyone [14:18] Aquarius Paravane: no I'm asking for it too [14:18] Talarus Luan: http://forums.secondlife.com/showthread.php?t=314474 [14:18] Marigold Devin: tks [14:19] Talarus Luan: Anyway..I just wanted to point it out, because it is happening. The two people involved are/were Arbor Project members, and I would rather not dredge up the drama today during the meeting. [14:19] Simeon Beresford: nods lot of dirty linen washed [14:20] Rem Nightfire: seems to me its about time for jack to reveal a timeline for the policy - when will microplots be dealt with on a larger scale than case by case [14:20] Talarus Luan: The best of people sometimes make more drama than necessary to get something done, but what matters is the end result in this case. [14:20] Simeon Beresford: dontthink there is anything left to say on the matter [14:20] Bushido Contepomi: Has anyone seen that AV that brought me to a PlandZ parcel earlier? [14:20] Drongle McMahon: I want to know when they'll start dealing with the real baddies. [14:20] Rem Nightfire: yes [14:20] Simeon Beresford: AV? [14:21] Talarus Luan: Well, the problem is that they are going to handle them on a case-by-case basis, because oft times, it is about the only way to deal with it. [14:21] Rem Nightfire: well that will take about 10 years then [14:21] Aztek Aeon accepted your inventory offer. [14:22] Bushido Contepomi: this litttle fella posted in group chat about a over priced parcel that PlandZ got that he abandoned, but could not provide proof [14:22] Talarus Luan: I mean, I would love nothing better than to see a few of the parasites permabanned, myself, but it is clear that they aren't going to go that route unless there is gross violation, even far beyond what we've already had to put up with. [14:22] Talarus Luan: Unfortunately, there's no automated process that they have which will 'heal' the mainland. [14:22] Drongle McMahon: Nedd to introduce Jack to the concept of "persona non grata" [14:23] Talarus Luan: Even if they banned all the bad ones, there would still be an awful lot of microplots, abandoned and not, still out there to clean up. [14:23] Aquarius Paravane: I'm sorry but if I had a complete sim with one donut hole out of it I'd be pretty pissed at these people for holding out [14:23] Rem Nightfire: except for price controls on smaller sized parcels that might do it [14:23] Aquarius Paravane: and the fact that they wont come clean and say what they are doing with the parcels in the middle of your land [14:23] Helpless Frog: The issue is a simple one of time. [14:23] Doran Zemlja: has anyone considered writing a bot to scan land, figure parcel sizes, look for extortion plots, prioritize them, etc... ? i.e. does anyone have a real quantitative handle on the problem? [14:23] Marigold Devin: and Linden are so slow at turning round the abandoned parcels, so the whole land is a mess [14:23] Talarus Luan: Well, any technological measures are going to be months, if ever. [14:24] Helpless Frog: Existing cuts will need to be handled case-by-case. [14:24] Helpless Frog: new cuts are a different issue. [14:24] Marigold Devin: price controls for sure would be excellent [14:24] Aquarius Paravane: users dont make mistakes, system designers do [14:24] Talarus Luan: On the Linden side, anyway [14:24] Aquarius Paravane: the people who designed the system that let this mess happen should fix it [14:24] Simeon Beresford: just begin at the beging do a sim at a time [14:24] Drongle McMahon: LL can get that data with a few database quries. [14:24] Talarus Luan: We've always known that this problem got WAY WAY out of hand a long time ago, and that it was going to be a gargantuan mess to clean up later. [14:25] Helpless Frog: Yes. [14:25] Talarus Luan: I'm just glad we finally got LL to see it, and now they are getting a taste of what it is going to take to clean it up. [14:25] Marigold Devin: LL know EXACTLY who owns what. Their database can pinpoint who owns all these overpriced plots [14:25] Helpless Frog: The problem is manpower, Marigold. [14:25] Marigold Devin: But maybe they have other bigger things to be dealing with... LL don't have enough staff to cover it all, and now they're dealing with this Adult segregation issue... [14:25] Marigold Devin: well... land issues are going to take a back burner aren't they? [14:25] Simeon Beresford: is improving though but they need to target new cuts agrexssively [14:26] Rem Nightfire: they have been [14:26] Marigold Devin: oh we crossed Helpless. [14:26] Helpless Frog: LOL [14:26] Marigold Devin: Quite so. LL don't have enough manpower [14:26] Talarus Luan: I don't think land issues are going to change priority anytimes soon [14:26] Marigold Devin: Well, ageplay seems more likely to get Second Life shut down than land cutting [14:26] Helpless Frog: However, the ban for new cutting is an example of LL starting to handle the situation going forward. [14:26] Talarus Luan: Jack has said that there was some kind of deadline with the microparcel owners which expires in about a week or so. We will have to hold him to that. [14:27] Rem Nightfire: i know LL is adverse to price controls, but a temporary on on parcels smaller than 512 would clean up the mainland right quick [14:27] Marigold Devin: Rem, you are so right. And it seems very doable [14:27] Marigold Devin: do-able [14:27] Talarus Luan: Even if they wanted to, they don't have the technology to do it atm. [14:27] Bushido Contepomi: Here Here Rem:) [14:27] Helpless Frog: Needs to change code somewhere for that. [14:28] Helpless Frog: DB side is best. [14:28] Talarus Luan: Anything that boils down to the developers touching code somewhere is like a sacred cow being slaughtered. They won't do it unless it is critically important. [14:28] Drongle McMahon: Tier controls [14:28] Helpless Frog: Same problem Drongle. [14:28] Simeon Beresford: nods enough spagetti in there already [14:28] Talarus Luan: Mainly because they simply don't have the development personnel to devote to it. [14:29] Rem Nightfire: just make it a policy and an AR offense to have an extortion price they will fall in line fast [14:29] Helpless Frog: Again, manpower. [14:29] PaintHorse Graysmark: don't mess with the hampsters [14:29] Helpless Frog: That's the case-by-case thing [14:29] Helpless Frog: LOL [14:29] Drongle McMahon: Singeblac allen isn't in people search any more. Guess he was an alt. [14:29] Marigold Devin: It is all really boiling down to lack of staff, but we all know that doing it case by case is more time consuming than setting a program in place [14:29] Rem Nightfire: not when the word spreads an people start gettung suspended for it [14:29] Helpless Frog: Hey, I'm a gerbil NOT a hampster. [14:29] Aquarius Paravane: try search all [14:29] Drongle McMahon: That would take 100s of ARs. [14:29] PaintHorse Graysmark: lol [14:30] Talarus Luan: OK. Anyone else have any more news to share with the group? Any luck with your microparcel issues? [14:30] Bushido Contepomi: This Group "Protectedmailand.com" has got some lovely cut and drops, becoming more complex with web sales [14:30] Aquarius Paravane: going back to the sthinking forum, there was an example of the G team acting like judge dredd that made one of my neighbors quit [14:30] PaintHorse Graysmark: I want to say thank you to those in the group who assisted in getting my new larger parcel for my "cause" [14:30] PaintHorse Graysmark: she will love the build [14:30] Helpless Frog: Any idea what PLandZ and PrimLand will do? [14:30] Aztek Aeon: lack of luck... found new cutting today [14:31] Chaos Mohr: is that rhetorical Helpless? my off the cuff answer would be burn in a pit forever, but that's just me :P [14:31] Rem Nightfire: who made the cut aztek? [14:31] Helpless Frog: LOL [14:32] Talarus Luan: Well, all microparcel owners, especially those two, have been told to reduce and swap when asked, or else LL will do it for them. [14:32] Simeon Beresford: long term suspect prtected land will last longest [14:32] Aztek Aeon: Maxx Arkin [14:32] NanaShea Inglewood: maxx is big problem [14:32] Aztek Aeon: Trrroll made a few, too [14:32] Helpless Frog: just that they have not appeared to have altered their policies in line with current ToS. [14:32] Aztek Aeon: and 2 new lots by PLandZ there as well [14:32] Helpless Frog: Still 10k-25k for plots. [14:32] PaintHorse Graysmark: a question I have a 16 that is roadside I waited quite some time to pick up the others nearby and realized that won't happen I have offered it to both the larger parcel ownners near it at a low price 200l and not heard fro either should I just abandon it? [14:32] Talarus Luan: If what Jack says is true, the deadline looming in the next week should kick in and maybe we will see some more mass dumping. If not, then we'll be at Jack's in a week or so to dump on him. :) [14:33] Simeon Beresford: they are best places to avoid microparcel acusations [14:33] Rem Nightfire: AR s seem to be effective for new cuts [14:33] Aztek Aeon: My AR's fall on deaf ears [14:33] Simeon Beresford: donated it to arbor [14:33] Rem Nightfire: yes talarus he says we will see results soon. i can trust in that (for awhile yet) [14:33] Melodie Darwin: was there really a deadline or timeframe? [14:33] Talarus Luan: Well, he asked for a month. Almost a month has gone by. [14:34] Talarus Luan: Something I would suggest is to document as many microparcel blights as you can in the next week or two. [14:34] Timo Daehlie: i asaw a cut of Neptune Shelman [14:34] Timo Daehlie: then he trasnferred the microplot to Develop SL [14:34] Bushido Contepomi: I complained everyday for three weeks about this house that was overlapping my land, LL removed the house, but the furniture just floats in the air lol [14:34] Timo Daehlie: his group [14:35] Aztek Aeon: I have seen alot of Develop SL lately too [14:35] Talarus Luan: That way, when Jack says "isn't the mainland so much better?", we can throw the wad of reports at him and say "not yet". :) [14:35] Marigold Devin: Good Grief, Bushido, thats LL doing thingsn to the letter isn't it? LOL [14:35] Drongle McMahon: I was following a few in detail for 6 weeks, but nothing happened, so I gave up. [14:35] Helpless Frog: Oooooo...documentation. [14:35] Timo Daehlie: keep in contact Aztek.. i will AR it [14:35] Bushido Contepomi: haha [14:36] Aztek Aeon: Bushido, getting encoraching objects removed lately is impossible [14:37] Marigold Devin: Regarding healing the land... [14:37] Bushido Contepomi: Well I give thanks to the LL Gods for moving the house! [14:37] Marigold Devin: Is there a comprehensive list of people who own microparcels who have inactive accounts? [14:37] Marigold Devin: For example... [14:37] Marigold Devin: Geewhiz [14:37] Marigold Devin: That could be useful if we can all get together and compile one maybe [14:37] Helpless Frog: Only LL would have a compiled list. [14:37] Talarus Luan: One of the technology updates this year is supposed to be a feature where you can return overlapping prims yourself. [14:37] Marigold Devin: LL have been really helpful on a badly cut up parcel I bought [14:38] Marigold Devin: No less than 3 inactive accounts, and LL sold the land to me [14:38] Bushido Contepomi: That's great news Marigold:) [14:38] Helpless Frog: I've done the same in the past. [14:38] Talarus Luan: It's hard to tell; we've had various lists in the past, but there's no way to know who is "active" and who isn't. [14:38] Drongle McMahon: How do you know an account is inactive? [14:38] Marigold Devin: For one thing ... [14:39] Helpless Frog: LL looks for last login for one thing. [14:39] Marigold Devin: you can tell if an account is inactive if the Group doesn't appear in the Group search [14:39] Talarus Luan: Well, the only way I know is via an online tracker. [14:39] Rem Nightfire: put in a ticket for the land and see what happens [14:39] Marigold Devin: And if you just suspect then do as Rem says... put in a support ticket [14:39] Marigold Devin: Linden will say yay or nay, depending on active or not. [14:39] Talarus Luan: Yeah, that's what I imagine is the best way; just ticket the land and let LL figure it out. [14:40] Marigold Devin: At the end of the day... if we all keep bugging LL about this, then they will need to get more staff, or change their program in some way [14:40] Talarus Luan: Anything they don't reclaim means that the person is probably still active, or at least paying for the account. [14:40] Rem Nightfire: yes [14:40] Bushido Contepomi: http://secondlife.com/support [14:40] Marigold Devin: or have something like the "moles"... just to deal with the microparcel /land healing [14:40] Simeon Beresford: missing half this covo we arte to spread out [14:40] Drongle McMahon: That's us! [14:40] Marigold Devin: Unofficially thats us [14:41] Marigold Devin: But we're unofficial... vigilantes... and I feel LL do not take us seriously [14:41] Talarus Luan: Alrighty. Any last tidbits of news? [14:41] Talarus Luan: Well, they do, actually. [14:41] Marigold Devin: Talk more about bots and the policy please [14:41] Simeon Beresford: they do indeed [14:41] Rem Nightfire: we got respect [14:41] Talarus Luan: We get a lot of respect for our efforts from Jack and the other G-Team members [14:41] Marigold Devin: whupps sorry, did I speak out of turn. [14:41] Marigold Devin: Forgive my naivety. I am just learning this stuff. [14:42] Simeon Beresford: no margo :^) [14:42] Talarus Luan: The bot issue is waiting for feedback. [14:42] Simeon Beresford: speak up [14:42] Talarus Luan: What we thought was going to be a policy was nothing more than a request for feedback about what policy to use. [14:42] Rem Nightfire: yes margo we are ll learners here [14:43] Marigold Devin: oh OK [14:43] Marigold Devin: It just seemed I got put in my place a little back there. [14:43] Simeon Beresford: wasnt my intention [14:43] Rem Nightfire: apologies if it was something from me no intent there [14:43] Talarus Luan: Unfortunately, Jack hasn't responded much about the bot policy yet. QUite a few options have been thrown at him, from deleting traffic altogether, to uncoupling it from search, to AR parties for bot farms, etc. [14:43] Drongle McMahon: Need an Arbot group for that. [14:44] Bushido Contepomi: No right and wrong here, just figuring it all out:) [14:44] Talarus Luan: Nothing concrete yet, basically. [14:44] Marigold Devin: Does Arbor Group ever manage to get an actual Linden to sit in on any of these meetings? [14:44] Marigold Devin: Or do we send them the minutes? [14:44] Talarus Luan: We will have to press him for more action in his upcoming meetings. [14:45] Talarus Luan: We have invited him and the others several times. [14:45] Marigold Devin: And they don't ever come? [14:45] Rem Nightfire: jack has an open invitation [14:45] Timo Daehlie: nope ;) [14:45] Talarus Luan: So far, they haven't availed themselves of it. [14:45] Marigold Devin: Well, that speaks volumes to me. [14:45] Simeon Beresford: lol [14:45] Timo Daehlie: but recently TJ joined the arbor [14:45] Drongle McMahon: Who knows? They may be listening now! [14:45] Helpless Frog: I think they are concerned that they would be mobbed rather than witness an actual meeting. [14:45] Timo Daehlie: and during the restiration some of us meet them inworld [14:46] Marigold Devin: Well for sure, Drongle, the Lindens have the power to see what they want to and when they want to. [14:46] Marigold Devin: I took one on a tour of the ageplay places one day. [14:46] Marigold Devin: Maybe someone should take one or two of them on a tour of the worst ad-cut places??? [14:46] Bushido Contepomi: Dont tell the Noobs about spies yet Tal lol [14:46] Simeon Beresford: yes weare on good terms with g team [14:46] Marigold Devin: or has this been done already? [14:46] NanaShea Inglewood: big brother is always watching [14:46] Helpless Frog: Those can be a little unsettling. [14:46] Bushido Contepomi: LOL [14:46] Timo Daehlie: they have seen Mari .. [14:47] Simeon Beresford: and remember they have alts so can mingle [14:47] Talarus Luan: Alrighty, I would like to turn the floor over to Rem for a bit to talk about landscaping and some other items of interest. :) [14:47] Rem Nightfire: *glaces around* [14:47] Marigold Devin: Thanks Talarus, its been interesting and enlightening [14:47] Cuddlebug Clowes: wb [14:49] Bushido Contepomi: Timo Question? Was she a witch? [14:49] Drongle McMahon: Who? [14:49] Bushido Contepomi: Monty Python [14:49] Simeon Beresford: ? [14:49] Rem Nightfire: well maybe its time for quick update of the landscaping and arbor plot transfers... [14:49] Drongle McMahon: Ah. [14:49] Talarus Luan: Yus. :) [14:49] Timo Daehlie: its from a scene of a movie Drongle ;) [14:49] Timo Daehlie: go Rem [14:50] Drongle McMahon: Run aweay, Run away... [14:50] Helpless Frog: Bushido, does she weigh the same as a duck? [14:50] Rem Nightfire: ok not much new on the landscaping front the bigger parcels are slowly getting bigger as we add abandoned land to them [14:50] Bushido Contepomi: Haha [14:51] Rem Nightfire: some of them are transferred and we continue to landscape plots down to about 64m in size [14:51] Simeon Beresford: oh so we are agresively claiming bandoned plots? [14:51] Bushido Contepomi: Fantastic Rem, what are we going to do when it is all cleaned up? [14:51] Rem Nightfire: one issue has been the presence or absence of tracking numbers on some of the plots, but xerses will remedy this soon [14:51] Bushido Contepomi: Go for a soda;) [14:52] Rem Nightfire: haha that will be a bit yet bush [14:52] Rem Nightfire: lots of donations continue [14:52] Helpless Frog: Rem/Timo, will you guys let me know when Zerses is next online? [14:52] Rem Nightfire: sure [14:52] Helpless Frog: Thanks [14:52] Rem Nightfire: as for the notecards, well over 100 plots have gone to new homes [14:52] Rem Nightfire: 1000 [14:53] Simeon Beresford: wow [14:53] Rem Nightfire: i mean [14:53] Bushido Contepomi: Wonderful ! [14:53] NanaShea Inglewood: woooot [14:53] Bushido Contepomi: What a great story Rem ty [14:53] Talarus Luan: That's a lot of plots [14:53] Bushido Contepomi: And evryone who dropped them:) [14:53] Rem Nightfire: and the Gov. is claiming many as well to add to their large store of abandonded land [14:53] Marigold Devin: Tres excellent [14:54] Helpless Frog: I have seen land up for auction with micros next to them or inside them still. [14:54] Rem Nightfire: as you know, they have an invitation to claim any arbor land under 256 m if it makes sense to join to their land [14:54] Bushido Contepomi: As have I in Anrum [14:55] Rem Nightfire: well there have been a few strange actions by LL with micros [14:55] Rem Nightfire: but i think they are experimenting [14:55] Marigold Devin: You mean the 16ms with auction ID numbers? [14:55] Rem Nightfire: yes [14:55] Marigold Devin: its very strange [14:55] Marigold Devin: Has Jack come forth with an explanation then? [14:55] Drongle McMahon: I think those 16s are a bug. [14:56] Rem Nightfire: and i ran into dee linden setting a gov. plot for sale at 74 L [14:56] Simeon Beresford: i asked Gteam to clean an area of abandoned cuts this week and they now have an on offer to adjacent landowner sign on the area [14:56] Rem Nightfire: she said it was research* [14:56] Marigold Devin: So if we submit a support ticket about them, they will be dealt with Drongle maybe? [14:56] Bushido Contepomi: Auctioned off a huge chunk of land in Shatgogae that was pretty badly chewed last month [14:56] Marigold Devin: oh research! [14:56] Marigold Devin: Hmmm [14:56] Drongle McMahon: One is stillmpurple although it's owned. [14:56] Rem Nightfire: anyway keep up with your notecard distribution [14:56] Rem Nightfire: and if people need help getting them out holler [14:57] Drongle McMahon: maybe [14:57] Helpless Frog: I tossed about a dozen this last week. I haven't followed up yet. [14:57] Rem Nightfire: each letter is assigned still, but theres alot out there [14:58] Bushido Contepomi: I have a multi-lingual card I can give you if need be just send an IM [14:58] Rem Nightfire: so if you have a letter with lots of sims beginning with it and need help just say so [14:58] Simeon Beresford: still got loads [14:58] Mex Sands: anyone have a japanese language card ? [14:58] Bushido Contepomi: Yes [14:58] Rem Nightfire: bush does [14:58] Simeon Beresford: but will have time this week [14:58] Rem Nightfire: it works too [14:58] Mex Sands: can i have a copy pls [14:59] Bushido Contepomi: yes [14:59] Timo Daehlie: what if they answer you in japanese Mex ? :) [14:59] Rem Nightfire: hehe that happened to you didnt it timo? [14:59] Talarus Luan: We need to hire Hisashi to talk with them. :P [14:59] Mex Sands: it's you they will be chasing once the card is given :) [14:59] Timo Daehlie: lol Tal ;) [14:59] Timo Daehlie: thanks mex ;))) [15:00] Drongle McMahon: 40% of mine have gone now ... how does that compare generally? [15:00] Rem Nightfire: in other news 2 of of the special Arbor parcels have been transferred to Direct Action to prevent a Linden "mistake" [15:00] Simeon Beresford: good [15:00] Rem Nightfire: the HQ and the freebie store [15:01] Aquarius Paravane: prevent a linden mistake????? [15:01] Helpless Frog: I still have one large landscaped plot left. [15:01] Rem Nightfire: we will transfer the other historic spots this week [15:01] Hekate Galatea: is the freebie store up then? [15:01] Helpless Frog: Hi Praetor! [15:01] Rem Nightfire: hello Preaetor! [15:01] Aquarius Paravane: sry got a tenant issue bye all [15:01] Marigold Devin: Hello Praetor. Good to see you again [15:01] Simeon Beresford: we gave them permision to claim our parcels if it seemed sensible [15:01] Rem Nightfire: thanks again for this fine spot [15:01] Timo Daehlie: ola preator ;) [15:01] Marigold Devin: bye Aquarius [15:01] Praetor Janus: Hello my friends, welcome, sorry for my delay, RL, :) [15:01] Drongle McMahon: He's come to chuck us out! [15:01] Helpless Frog: LOL [15:02] Timo Daehlie: to collect entrance fee ;) [15:02] Helpless Frog: :D [15:02] Rem Nightfire: the freebie store will be up and running soon right hekate? [15:02] Rem Nightfire: hehe [15:02] Bushido Contepomi: hihi Praetor [15:02] Praetor Janus: you're all very welcome, I don't want to disturb the works, please go on :) [15:02] Hekate Galatea: um... [15:02] Rem Nightfire: no pressure [15:03] Simeon Beresford: how about the clocktower? are we moving that into a safe group? [15:03] Rem Nightfire: yes that will go to DA too [15:03] Timo Daehlie: yes simeon [15:03] Simeon Beresford: good [15:03] Timo Daehlie: we are asking permission for shirely memorial too [15:03] Rem Nightfire: well thats all i have to bring up any questions? [15:04] Bushido Contepomi: are we going to educate more [15:04] Helpless Frog: Just "out of meeting" stuff Rem. [15:04] Timo Daehlie: yes Bushido ;) [15:04] Rem Nightfire: an ongoing discussion of how best to get the word out yes bushido [15:05] Rem Nightfire: ok helpless we will talk later ok? [15:05] Simeon Beresford: bush we need to talk about party [15:05] Rem Nightfire: Party! [15:05] Bushido Contepomi: You Bet:) [15:05] Timo Daehlie: lol [15:05] PaintHorse Graysmark: I must be off folks thank you for the meeting and updates [15:06] Rem Nightfire: see you paint thanks for coming [15:06] Bushido Contepomi: We should book as many people as we can to cover the 12hrs? [15:06] Marigold Devin: I must go also. [15:06] Cuddlebug Clowes: have fun Paint see you later ? [15:06] Rem Nightfire: bye mari [15:06] Marigold Devin: Many thanks for an enlightening and interesting meeting. [15:06] Bushido Contepomi: Ciao for now Marigold:) [15:06] Simeon Beresford: nods [15:06] Timo Daehlie: okies about the party then .. [15:06] Marigold Devin: Goodbye all. [15:06] Tempus Titanium: yes... thanks [15:06] Cuddlebug Clowes: bye bye for now Marigold have fun :) [15:06] Tempus Titanium: goodbye [15:07] Timo Daehlie: if simeon can contact Bushido this week in order to arrange some musicans .. [15:07] Rem Nightfire: bye tempus [15:07] Praetor Janus: Bye Mari :) [15:07] Tempus Titanium: bywbyw for now [15:07] Simeon Beresford: now bush! [15:07] Praetor Janus: Bye Tempus [15:07] Timo Daehlie: we have two stages .. one for dance music one for easy listening .. if the party lasts for 6 hours we need for 12 hours music [15:07] Bushido Contepomi: We had spoken yesterday, lol, alrighty let's put it together then:) [15:08] Timo Daehlie: bush has a dj already and i can perform some but we need some more artsits [15:08] Cuddlebug Clowes: i know a few artists i can check with if you want me to? [15:08] Timo Daehlie: cool cuddle ;) [15:08] Bushido Contepomi: Each performer two hours? [15:08] Timo Daehlie: if you can arrange that with bush [15:08] Cuddlebug Clowes: ok ? [15:08] Timo Daehlie: i do an hour bush .. two hours is two long ;) [15:08] Timo Daehlie: too [15:08] Simeon Beresford: most live acts do an hour [15:08] Bushido Contepomi: kk, srry, wll go nto IM [15:09] Cuddlebug Clowes: most artists do an hour [15:09] Cuddlebug Clowes: live ones [15:09] Timo Daehlie: yeps [15:09] Simeon Beresford: Djs i suggest Tinka Willis [15:09] Bushido Contepomi: Their will also be a SIM limit (avatar) so it would have to be an all day/night event [15:09] Simeon Beresford: bluesy rock most people should like her [15:09] Rem Nightfire: nice [15:10] Timo Daehlie: okies lets see how far we get this week with that [15:10] Bushido Contepomi: I have two possible leads on the band Sublimatus, and a DJ named BooBoo [15:11] Simeon Beresford: acidicloop Exonar funky guitar loops cool sound [15:11] Rime Wirsing: (I arrived late - could someone send me a notecard transcript later?) [15:11] Bushido Contepomi: I suppose we can also listen to some TimoShoutcst for a dance or two;) [15:11] Simeon Beresford: Komuso Tokugawa - blues and good [15:12] Timo Daehlie: sure Bush ;) [15:12] Simeon Beresford: born again pagans for chill tent [15:12] Rem Nightfire: timo usually posts the meeting logs on his site, rime [15:12] Rime Wirsing: (thanks) Rem) [15:12] Bushido Contepomi: I also like a guitar plare named "Rose Drop Rust" unbelievable voice on this guy [15:12] Timo Daehlie: yes Rime ask me later on ;) [15:13] Timo Daehlie: okies my next point .. [15:13] Simeon Beresford: born again pagans sing aa song about ban lines [15:14] Praetor Janus: My friends I've 3 different music streams so for recorded music, let me know your wishes, we'll find a place for each music BushiDO, the Forum, the Market, the temple, the pool, etc, ... we can even have a disco in the Pharos room :) [15:14] Simeon Beresford: :^) [15:14] Bushido Contepomi: Cool:) [15:14] Timo Daehlie: today i have assigned a new meeting manager, a person who will send ou the weekly messages, creates the agenda and also will arrange the spots .. [15:14] Rem Nightfire: images of steve martins "king tut" routine [15:14] Bushido Contepomi: haha [15:15] Timo Daehlie: some of you might know her already other will see her name more often very soon : Cuddlebug Clowes [15:15] Isla Dubrovna makes note to smack Rem for getting that song stuck in her head [15:15] Cuddlebug Clowes: ? [15:15] Cuddlebug Clowes: hi everyone ? [15:15] Simeon Beresford: hi Cuddle bug [15:16] Timo Daehlie: so from now on she will send the Arbor msgs instead of me .. [15:16] Bushido Contepomi: hihi Cuddlebug! [15:16] NanaShea Inglewood: :) [15:16] Helpless Frog: Welcome to the AP Workforce Cuddles. [15:16] Cuddlebug Clowes: ty ? [15:16] Rem Nightfire: YAY cuddlebug! thank you [15:16] Cuddlebug Clowes: yw Rem ? [15:16] Cuddlebug Clowes: leans heavily on Timo :P lol [15:16] Rem Nightfire: hehe sorry isla [15:16] Cuddlebug Clowes: j/k [15:17] Timo Daehlie: i can have .. ;) [15:17] Timo Daehlie: well ... back to the blue dragon then ;) [15:18] Rem Nightfire: should i poke him? [15:18] Timo Daehlie: yeah [15:18] Simeon Beresford: so part is being hosted here? [15:18] Simeon Beresford: cool [15:18] Timo Daehlie: yeps simeon ;) [15:18] Timo Daehlie: have a look around later on .. the music areas are pretty cool [15:19] Talarus Luan is poked. :) [15:19] Rem Nightfire: hehe [15:20] Simeon Beresford: dangerous busines poking dragons [15:20] Talarus Luan: Sorry.. am working on two things at once here. :) [15:20] Praetor Janus: I'm a poor host :( I arrive late and must go :( Be well my friends :) please send me the transcript of the meeting. See you all son :) I wish you well [15:20] Cuddlebug Clowes: a dragon that can multitask wooot [15:20] Talarus Luan: Yes, we do exist! :D [15:20] Helpless Frog: Happy travels Praetor. [15:20] NanaShea Inglewood: bye Praetor....ty 15:20] Cuddlebug Clowes: bye bye for now Praetor have fun :) [15:21] Bushido Contepomi: Take Care Praetor, and Thank-you! [15:21] Simeon Beresford: by preator [15:21] Praetor Janus: All the Best my friends :) [15:21] Cuddlebug Clowes: ty again Praetor ? [15:21] Talarus Luan: Anyway, it is clear that we still have plenty to do, and I am glad we have more folks to take up the reins and helping out. This all would be impossible without everyone's support and assistance. :) [15:22] Rem Nightfire: hear hear [15:22] Helpless Frog: As we grow, we have more hands to help. Sounds good to me. :) [15:22] Talarus Luan: We'll be back again at Jack's OH this week. We'll be starting to press him on the deadline for the microparcels. If you have anything you would like us to bring up at his office hours for you, if you can't be there yourself, just let me or Timo know. :) [15:23] Talarus Luan: Thursdays at 11AM SLT. [15:23] Helpless Frog: I tried last week, got the boot and couldn't log in again. [15:23] Talarus Luan: For those who want to come. [15:23] Rem Nightfire: i canbe there this week looking forward to it [15:23] Talarus Luan: Yeah, SL was acting up this week, but he showed up at about a half hour afterward. [15:23] Drongle McMahon: Question is - will Jack be there? [15:24] Talarus Luan: Yes, he should be [15:25] Talarus Luan: Unless some unplanned situation arises [15:25] NanaShea Inglewood: btw...where is the place? [15:25] Talarus Luan: For his office hours? [15:25] NanaShea Inglewood: yes [15:25] Talarus Luan: Linden Estate Services [15:26] Rem Nightfire: http://wiki.secondlife.com/wiki/Office_Hours [15:26] Talarus Luan: *open to all [15:26] NanaShea Inglewood: ty Talarus [15:26] NanaShea Inglewood: and Rem [15:26] Talarus Luan: All right. Any last items of business for today? [15:26] Bushido Contepomi: http://slurl.com/secondlife/Linden%20Estate%20Services/128/128/2 [15:27] Rem Nightfire: so talarus what is the word about concierge group chat? [15:27] NanaShea Inglewood: ty Bushido [15:27] Rem Nightfire: just heard of it from melodie [15:28] Bushido Contepomi: Your welcome, thank-you for this meeting gauy's [15:28] Bushido Contepomi: *Everyone [15:28] Talarus Luan: I haven't heard from Jack yet about what the group is [15:28] Talarus Luan: I'll press him again this Thursday [15:28] Rem Nightfire: ok thanks [15:28] Helpless Frog: I went to live chat support this week. [15:28] Bushido Contepomi: I will be there too [15:29] Rem Nightfire: cool [15:29] Bushido Contepomi: Until Then Everyone [15:29] Helpless Frog: Was transfered from one person to another in real time to help deal with the issue directly. [15:29] Rem Nightfire: bye bushido [15:29] NanaShea Inglewood: bye bushido [15:29] Rime Wirsing: bye Bushido [15:29] Timo Daehlie: later bush ! [15:29] Cuddlebug Clowes: bye bye for now bushido have fun :) [15:29] Rem Nightfire: yea live chat can be very useful [15:29] Helpless Frog: First time I've seen support transfer that way. [15:29] Simeon Beresford: bye bush [15:30] Helpless Frog: Bye Bushido [15:31] Talarus Luan: Alrighty. We'll be back again in two weeks (right, Timo?) [15:31] NanaShea Inglewood: Holiday [15:31] Timo Daehlie: ehh . cuddle ;) [15:31] Talarus Luan: Next meeting place? [15:31] Talarus Luan: Oh. sorry, Cuddlebug? :) [15:31] Cuddlebug Clowes: lol Timo [15:31] Timo Daehlie: i am serious Cuddle ! ;) [15:32] Talarus Luan: Wasn't sure if you were fully active yet. :D [15:32] Rem Nightfire: timo has a list of possible meeting sites up his sleeve [15:33] Talarus Luan: Is Easter in two weeks? [15:33] Timo Daehlie: yeps [15:33] NanaShea Inglewood: next week [15:33] Rem Nightfire: no its next week right? [15:33] Drongle McMahon: Next week for me! [15:33] Tonia Mayo: sevn days from today :) [15:33] Rem Nightfire: yes [15:33] Cuddlebug Clowes: yes next meeting is in two weeks [15:33] Talarus Luan: Yeah, so two weeks would be good for the next meeting, then :) [15:33] Cuddlebug Clowes: the place i will send out a notice ? [15:34] Talarus Luan: OK Works for me. [15:34] Rem Nightfire: great [15:34] Cuddlebug Clowes: Timo hasn't forwarded the place to me yet ;) [15:34] Timo Daehlie: i do this week ;) [15:34] Talarus Luan: I think that about wraps things up for this meeting, so thank you all for coming, and we'll see you again in two weeks. :) [15:34] Timo Daehlie: aye aye ! till next show ;) [15:34] NanaShea Inglewood: Happy Easter everyone :) [15:34] Cuddlebug Clowes: ty Talarus, Timo and Rem great meeting ? [15:35] Rem Nightfire: great meeting folks keep up the fine work [15:35] Drongle McMahon: I'll give you a landmark to mine, but it's a bit small. [15:35] Cuddlebug Clowes: Happy Easter everyone ?